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Mr. Bun

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sounds like a full-on clusterf@ck to me.

and big pharma/insurance companies can't make money off of UVA1....so.......it flounders.
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Yup. The US (aka The Clintons/Obama) thought they could recreate a socialized medicine of sorts here in 8 short years. They didn't "bank" on the insurance companies and pharma balking and really putting the screws to folks that believed in them.
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therein lies the power.

big pharma and insurance companies.  to hear them tell it....they are helping the "ill".

Truth be told......they both love chronically ill people.  Pharma makes money.....insurance companies deny claims.....and are profitable.

what a world.
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Absolutely Bun. Sad.
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It's sad because some people who would not have been able to get insurance was finely able to get insurance only to have so many issues. I sometimes think how other country's like England or Canada have their medical would work here but after what some of the stuff that has happened to poor bun ....... but there has to be an answer
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I think the insurance companies got screwed too. That's why there are less than 10 still participating in the program, it originally started with nearly 30. I think the only winners were big pharma and the government itself. Granted my premiums weren't bad but some years my coverage totally sucked. This year I have a tiered co-pay: urgent care $40, ER $150, pcp $25, specialists $25. I just need to stay out of the ER this year. But if things work the way I think they should, I won't be paying anything to my rheumy during my clinical trial, she will be payed by the drug company.
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Baker the ER might locks its doors if they see you coming especially if it's the ER that you wanted to kick the doctors butt granted he deserved it.
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Whether it gets repealed or replaced, I can no longer afford it anyway. Mine went from $67 a month to $600 since this thing started. So much for a 25% increase. Mine keeps going up over 100% each year:(


edit: Called the Marketplace. I am at least down to $415 so I can afford to pay for a month or two! 
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Unreal
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Bumping this up
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Paul Ryan is now talking about repairing Obamacare instead of repeal and replace. It remains to be seen what that'll look like, but let's hope it will make healthcare affordable for every American. 

 Don't feel too sorry for insurance companies. They're raking in eye-popping profits. You can look it up yourself.

United Health Care, the health insurance giant that claims it's leaving the marketplace because Obamacare was decimating them financially, raked in $46 BILLION dollars in profits in the second quarter of 2016 alone--that's $46 billion in only THREE MONTHS, $10 billion MORE than the second quarter of 2015. Its CEO, Steven Hemsley, was paid a hefty $20 million last year. They left the marketplace because THEY messed up; they blamed the ACA so they wouldn't take a hit on Wall Street.

Aetna reported $60 billion dollars in revenue, a record for them. And their CEO, Mark Bertolini, took home a whopping $27.9 million dollars. 

Obamacare needs fixing, but the insurance companies don't deserve any sympathy. The public does.


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Sure there are issues and problems with Obamacare but at least people had insurance. There were to many people who could not go to the doctors because they did not have insurance. Obamacare opened doors for them to have good medical care. But it's not perfect






Note: Please excuse any misspelled works or grammar errors. I have CNS lupus and brain lesions and use a program to help me type

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United Healthcare did pull out of Obamacare. I had to find a new insurance company again this year.

Obamacare originally started out with somewhere around 30 insurance companies and now it has less than ten now. Obamacare always needed some changes, but I believe the insurance companies ended up being screwed by the government, which is why they are pulling out. Most of the insurance companies that I have had through Obamacare have been good, but I don't think that I have had the same company for more than one year.

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I have private insurance with blue cross blue shield. It has gone up every year. I won't tell you the cost because it is as much as most house payments. Stupid!

A coworker had Obama care. He paid 100 a month. He was thrilled. But when he went to the dr. They said he had to pay 100% of his bill until he used all his out of pocket of 5k. He makes 10 a hour. He dropped it. He goes across the border to Mexico to see a dr there. His insurance was only good for catastrophic issues. Which is fine but he was told it was health insurance.
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Lots of horror stories about Obamacare
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