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Cakelady

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I think it's both. People who don't want to work and expect that they should get everything "free" then the immigrants who come over with nothing and then expect free lunches and breakfasts at the schools and if they don't get it they file a complaint. They can also file for SSI and get it while other have to fight for that

It's really sad. Someone who has worked all their life at a job paid into SSA etc then when they can't work anymore they have to fight to get what's owed to them. While others have kid after kid and don't have to pay medical don't have to pay for their prescriptions don't have to pay for housing don't have to pay for electrical or gas plus they get $400 a month to feed their family's and cash. How is that fair? It's not.


I wish I had an answer but I don't.

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Right now I'm very upset because I read an opinion piece by a far-right Washington, DC player who argues we should discard protections for those of us with pre-existing conditions because, according to him, we're leeches who suck up too much health care. Without us, he argues, more people would get better, cheaper coverage. Funny, that's not the way it worked BEFORE Obamacare, but apparently I'm just a party-p ooper--probably due to that pre-existing condition. So those of us with lupus? Mere collateral damage. Look away, folks, and keep moving. 

And the GOP leadership ISN'T done with health care after all. But I'm getting a migraine, and the details are pretty grim no matter what your political leaning, so I'll save that for later.


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Just in case anyone still reads this thread...

A new amendment has been added to the G.O.P. health care plan in the hope it will bride the gap between moderate and far-right Republicans.  Obamacare requires insurance companies to provide certain baseline benefits to all, including those of us with pre-existing conditions. The MacArthur Amendment would let states define what "basic" means in terms of health care benefits. This could bring costs down for people without pre-existing conditions but could also limit coverage. For those of us with pre-existing conditions like lupus, it would increase premiums and mean fewer health costs would be covered.  The list of conditions insurance companies have called "pre-existing" is long and includes

diabetes
fibromyalgia
arthritis
asthma
high blood pressure
cancer within last 10 years
lupus
kidney disease/renal failure
coronary artery/heart disease
epilepsy
cerebral palsy
stroke


and dozens of others. 

I don't know if the proposed amendment would improve the chances of the G.O.P. health care plan to pass the House, let alone the Senate. Just trying to help everyone keep up-to-date.


 
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Inam more then likely going to get backlash for this but here it goes

I watched a program a couple of years ago regarding small town around the Mexican boarder this one town I believe was in texas. Pregnant women would swim over either while in labor or the swim would start their labor so that they could have their babies here. Sometimes they cut it so close that they were still wet from the river. They wanted to have their babies here for 2 reason.

The first their baby would be a US citizen being borning here and second the hospitals are better. Even wealthy people would drive over and "claim" they went into labor while over here so of course they had to have their baby here instead of trying to get back across the boarder.

Yet people who live here and pay taxes cant get proper medical no matter what they have it's sad and it's shameful

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No backlash here. I always fact-check TV shows like that because so often they're unreliable, since their primary purpose is to shock/anger viewers in order to get more of them. I've done a lot of research on "drop and dash" over the past two years. (Note: It's WAY too easy to get skewed data from biased sites that don't seem biased, so I use only sites I've researched and determined are not politically motivated.) Here's what I found. Interpret it as you like:

Birth tourism: Yes, that's a thing! Some U.S. hospitals advertise "birth tourist" packages!  One company offers  a $14,000 package that includes staying at a luxury resort before and after the birth. Obviously, the "birth tourists" have legal travel visas and are wealthy enough to afford these packages. 

Aside from that, it's hard to get numbers on women who come to the US to "drop and dash." However, if this were widespread, we'd expect to see more women coming illegally than men, whereas the opposite is true. Also, and this is shocking, the total number of legal and illegal immigrants entering the U.S. from Mexico between 2009 and 2015 is LOWER than the number leaving the U.S. for Mexico 2009-2015. (I've checked this literally 10 times.) Both numbers are lower now than in 2009, despite the economy improving. The data suggests almost all those who enter the U.S. illegally are doing so for work. That doesn't mean illegal immigrants don't "drop and dash"; it just means the number seems to be pretty low. 

I agree 100% that U.S. citizens should not have to pay more than those who can't afford to pay at all, wherever they come from. The TV show you watched seems to have exaggerated the problem substantially, but that doesn't mean it's not an issue.

Hope this helps!

 

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Aaaaand now things are up in the air again due to the President's recent remarks and uncertainty as to whether or not he supports the MacArthur Amendment. I'll stop posting on this unless things get more definite.
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