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SallySmiles

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http://www.lupus.org/answers/entry/is-lupus-a-form-of-arthritis

http://www.healthline.com/health/lupus-and-arthritis#Overview1
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Hi Robin (and the the whole Lupie gang),

I'm sorry for this COMPLETELY belated reply to a message from September.

I'm a bit clueless about the moderator's remark? Lupus arthritis is well documented as painfully swollen joints. If it is only lupus arthritis, it usually resolves as the flare subsides.

I don't think we can encapsulate the definition of all forms of "arthritis" being a permanent condition.

As other replies mentioned, some lupus patients also have rheumatoid arthritis, coining the phrase "Rupus" which I first heard mentioned by my Rheumy.

Before (and after) being diagnosed, I was suicidal for a year or two from the intense joint pain and restricted movement from Lupus/RA. Whatever form of arthritis a person has, the unrelenting pain and inability to find a position to relieve it can wear a person down to "life just ain't worth it."

An excellent post, Robin, and hopefully it will let some Lupies not feel quite so alone in their struggle! If we can encourage some Lupus Arthritis patients to keep trying docs & treatments to try and be given back a body that is tolerable to live in, that would be fantabulous.

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Lupus is not a form of arthritis. True. 

Arthritis is one symptom of lupus. Those suffering arthritis, the article says, have a higher risk of suicide, especially if anxiety and depression are also present. Both anxiety and depression are lupus symptoms. Therefore, the article seems to me to be highly relevant. I remember Cakelady semi-jokingly saying she was going to go find a bridge. Dealing with lupus day in and day out is exhausting, which also predisposes sufferers to depression.

Maybe the reaction was partly due to the link being a UVA1 site?? Just a wild guess and may be totally wrong. 


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"Maybe the reaction was partly due to the link being a UVA1 site?? Just a wild guess and may be totally wrong. "


Oh, I have no doubt.

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So good to hear people speaking up for the truth. I have R.Arthritis and Osteo Arthritis.  FYI of those who don't know, one primarily affect the bones, joints, and the other the tissues in the joints. A double pain whammy.  Sometimes my wrists hurt so bad I want to cut them off!  The cutting would be no less painful and then the pain would be gone.  That is the pain thinking.  I would never do that and I would never commit suicide after one failed attempt several years ago when I became an elder orphan.  Lately my fingers hurt as much and of course all over and with additional fibro well pain is a way of life for me.  Some days worse than others, though I like to say some days are better than others.  I am high pain tolerant so I can only imagine how it is for some others out there.  As a retired psychologist I am ambivelent about suicide being a good or bad thing.  
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