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I live in Washington state, where marijuana is legal for recreational and medical use. Last August, I bought low-THC high-CBD cannabis oil capsules. They were incredibly expensive: $10 per pill, and there's no dosing information. I took one a day and noticed no difference.

HOWEVER...

I am dating someone in "the industry," and I'm learning a lot. The THC component may have been TOO low. CBD is the anti-inflammatory, but from what I understand, the low-THC may not have helped matters. I'm still learning but will probably try a different formulation at some point. 

And Bun, the reason I opted for low-THC is that I tried smoking weed back in my silly teen years, and it gave me a panic attack. They never warned us about THAT in Health class! They only told us if we smoked weed, we'd end up lying in some alley surrounded by empty heroin syringes and regretting that first joint. Anyway, apparently it depends on the variety of cannabis. 

Not sure when I'll try again--probably within a couple of weeks. I'd definitely ask my rheumatologist about it first if I HAD a rheumatologist. 
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It sure DOES depend on the variety.

The insane heroine weed (blackmarket) that is around these days is totally different from the stuff in the 60's or 70's, where we were content to spark one up, turn on the tube and eat a bag of Cheetos.

I find the medical helps me sleep, cures my nausea and seems to help in controlling my aches & pains.  I only have some when I am getting ready for bed.
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sounds like a plan bun and did you say CHEETOS‼️⁉️😎
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yep.

and dammit.....out of cheesies right at the moment.....so am settling for Ritz cheese crackers.  

it.  is. not. the. same.
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I am going to try it when it is available in Australia.
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I am one who struggles with medications a lot, I have lost 30 lbs in the past 15 months, we think due to meds, but we are trying to r/o other things.  So, I am a cannabis user and did my research and talked to my doctors about it.  I can take zero pain relievers, pain killers, etc, nothing!   And I have bad side effects from anti depressants, which are used for pain relief, so cannabis has been a great analgesic.  I am working on my doctorate right now, so I have free access to the New England Journal of Medicine journals, which is the premiere medical journal for doctors and there is definitely good research on what cannabis can do for pain, auto immune disorders, etc.  The only reason it isn't legal is because Big Pharma has too large of a stranglehold on our government :(  The other reason, it is a scheduled I drug, is to give users a tougher penalty, largely because of the type of people who stereotypically use it. Unfortunately, there is no stereotype for a typically cannabis user any more, as it has begun to be used more and more for medical use, prescribed or not.  And no, my doctors have not discouraged me from using it....which I think speaks volumes.  I make edibles to minimize any lung problems.  
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I did the cannabis oil too, but only did it for a week, did not notice any difference, but it is pricey stuff for the good quality stuff we would need to be taking, so I did not test it out any further.  I am in Kentucky, nothing is legal here it seems, lol  
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I should add, I am not a new user, I am 45, been using since age 15, but not a whole lot, discovered the analgesic properties of the drug last summer when I realized that pain killers, even the mild ones, were causing too many problems, and now the neurologist wants me on no pain relievers either.  I then started using it without any pain killers and was like "wow", that really helps. I suspect it is helping to keep my inflammation under control somewhat as well, if what I have researched is true, and my lupus, RA have never flared really badly, no hospitalizations, I can still work, do my doctorate, do yoga, hike, walk the dogs, maintain a pretty normal lifestyle, albeit much of it has had to change since the diagnoses and the trouble and issues with it.  
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Wait a minute it's not considered a class1 drug
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Treehugger,  I wanted to address your comment on Big Pharma because I have a friend in another state (where cannabis is illegal) who relies on it for pain Rx painkillers don't relieve. He made the same comment about Big Pharma, so I researched. And I now know someone in the cannabis business, as it's legal where I live. Big Pharma has actually PUSHED for federal legalization for cannabis. Why? They stand to make ASTRONOMICAL profits and send the numerous smaller operations packing. You see, if cannabis were legalized by the feds, it would mean FDA requirements for clinical trials would kick in. Mom-and-pop operations wouldn't have the capital or capability to meet those requirements, but guess who would? Yep, got it in one: Big Pharma.  

On the plus side for consumers, standardized dosing (currently unavailable), interactions, side effects, would all be known. And since, it turns out, cannabis is far more complex chemically than you 'd think (I know someone in the business.) and there are so many different varieties, we'd understand it far better than we can now...eventually. On the minus side, the already high price would become higher after Big P. knocks out smaller producers. It'd take YEARS for it to pass FDA hurdles. And recreational use would still be illegal on the federal level.

We think of Big Pharma as being against anything herbal or supplemental, but we forget Big Pharma is FOR big profits. Some of the bigger Big Herba companies are actually owned by Big Pharma. Thar's gold in them thar hills. 

Cake, cannabis is indeed a Schedule I drug. There was talk last year about lowering it to a Schedule II classification, but the FDA didn't go for it.
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Taffy I could be wrong and they could have changed it in the last few years but when I handled our departments DEA and Scheduled drugs pot was not a 1. Very very few drugs were a 1.

But the pot now adays is a lot different then it was in the 60's and 70's. It's a lot stronger. I live in California and medical marijuana is accepted. If it was a class 1 drug you would have to have special paperwork etc and marijuana is not for everyone I don't want to get into a big debate over this so I will butt out

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I have been using tincture for the last two years for my lupus, ra, osteo, fibro, etc. I'm 63 never touched the stuff until then my daughter said mom try it. Just try it. No head rush, no getting high just relief of pain. I can't take pain meds any more to many stomach problems. Where I live it is legal. I raise my own, make my own. Not all the time does it work but most of the time plus it helps me to sleep at night. I am still learning the different plants and what they are for. 
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I am going to try a different combo of canibis meds tonight. I'll post how they turn out. 

Cake, you're much more knowledgeable than I am, but I do know that though some states have legalized cannabis, the feds have not. That's why it's not available in pharmacies. In states where it's legal for medical but not recreational use, it's only available through "dispensaries." It's also why it has to be on a cash-only basis: no checks, no credit cards. The U.S. Dept. of Justice said it wasn't going to go after users or sellers in states where cannabis is legal. Of course, that was during the last administration, but nobody's talking about pursuing at the federal level now. I think they'd have a big fight on their hands from states where it's legalized because states like the tax revenue and don't like expenses of arrest and jailing. The feds could rake in federal taxes from it, but so far...not interested.

I don't know when or why it was classified a Schedule I drug. I'm wondering if they changed the classification system because now it's on the list with LSD and heroin that can't be Rx'd, and meds that require ID, etc. are Schedule II. I, too,  thought those were all  Schedule I, and I don't have your years of experience, so...got me.  
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taffy well how did it go!😎
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It was not a success, but don't judge by me. I got a mild headache a little while after I took the capsules. The cannabis didn't knock it out but kind of tamped it down. But after two hours, my heart rate really accelerated, and my low blood pressure dropped. Those are fluky responses that probably wouldn't show up on other people. When the cannabis effect (I did not get high--not that much TCH.) wore off, I got a terrible migraine that liked it here so much, it hung around until this afternoon. 

So cannabis isn't a good idea for ME, but it does seem to help a lot of people.

And that raises a question: It's legal in my state, so I could tell a rheumatologist I'd tried cannabis, and he wouldn't blink. But if you live elsewhere, you might feel you can't tell your doc. So...

If you live in a state where even medical marijuana is illegal, and you found it helped, would you tell your doc? 
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